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Ziltoid the Omniscient

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Marijuana - The Forbidden Medicine
« on: April 21, 2010, 01:59:56 PM »
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I thought a slightly contentious title would be a good start.

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Lester Grinspoon, M.D.

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Dr. Lester Grinspoon was born June 24, 1928 in Newton, Massachusetts. He is married and the father of 3 children. Dr. Grinspoon is Associate Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and the author or co-author of several drug-related books, including Marijuana Reconsidered, Psychedelic Drugs Reconsidered, Marijuana: The Forbidden Medicine and Psychedelic Reflections. The first two were published during the 1970s, when it appeared cannabis was well on its way to nationwide decriminalization in the United States. The latter was published in 1993. It describes a variety of ailments for which cannabis ingestion may be indicated.


James B. Bakalar

James Bakalar is Editor of the Harvard Mental Health Letter and Lecturer in Law in the Department of Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School.


The book begins with a brief history of cannabis, examining the possibly ten thousand year history of cannabis use amongst humans and ending with the current legal quagmire surrounding cannabis, specifically focused on the USA.

The majority of the remainder of the book is a look at specific medical ailments that cannabis has been found to help with and includes often heartbreaking case studies of individuals denied the right to medicate themselves.

The remainder of the book makes a very coherent argument suggesting the claims that cannabis has no therapeutic effects is an unreasonable one, since there is very little research done due to its illegal status.
Also, a clinical look at cannabis is taken which examines the relative harm of cannabis in relation to many of the drugs touted by the pharmaceutical companies as more effective and less harmful medications.

A personal opinion:

The other day I had an argument with someone about cannabis and this individual spat out the same old cliches and unfounded claims that I have heard time and time again from a startling amount of otherwise perfectly sensible people. I am continually surprised at the sheer amount of misinformation floating around when it comes to what I (and a Harvard Professor, as well as millions of other people) perceive as a fairly harmless, if not potentially useful plant.

I challenge anyone who would rather pop a Prozac or drink a beer to read this book.

Amazon link:

http://www.amazon.com/Marihuana-Dr-Lester-Grinspoon-M-D/dp/0300070861#reader_0300070861





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Re: Marijuana - The Forbidden Medicine
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2010, 02:16:12 PM »
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Cannabis is illegal due to threat it posed United states senators who owned cotton fields back in the day. They lobbied against this cheaper more durable fiber to be banned and to wrap that under world wide opium legislation as it can make a person go whoopdy doo.

You know that a pair of hemp jeans will last about 10 times longer than traditional cotton textiles? Go google that.

Marijuana is Safe to use and may assist naturally in ailments such as depression and various pain related illnesses, cancer, Aids and a host of other problems.

IT CAN become emotionally addictive when used too much for recreational purposes - when you really do not need to take it. it is much safer that intoxicants found today legally in shops such as Tobacco and alcohol.

Marijuana can change a person's life view from aggressive to more passive and considerate.

Marijuana DOES NOT impair driving and coordination. The user adjusts his risk taking behavior accordingly and does not pose a greater risk on the road that sober nuns.

I like your review Ziltoid, you are open minded.

The new anti marijuana method is to tell people they will become schizophrenic. Although people may test positive for schitzo traits when tested while being under the influence of cannabis this does not say they have schizophrenia. 

Marijuana tastes like crap  :o

Good review! Now send me the ebook please!

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Re: Marijuana - The Forbidden Medicine
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2010, 02:24:30 PM »
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Great review Ziltoid.

It echoes many of my own thoughts on the subject.
It has very little if any harmful effects if one speaks about recreational use, definitely many degrees less than alcohol for instance.

I have read a number of articles which purport it's medicinal uses specifically related to cancer sufferers and other terminally ill patients.
In addition I recall reading at some stage that the petroleum industry was one of the main culprits in sponsoring a number of studies getting it banned.
This was as I understood it because they had new synthetic by products such as nylon etc. and getting Marijuana banned, one of the main uses at that time being a natural woven cloth called hemp was highly beneficial to them.

It is encouraging to see some enlightenment in States such as California, where specifically in same districts of San Francisco there is a far more relaxed attitude towards the medicinal use of Marijuana, with persons now being able to purchase it legally in certain stores specializing in that.

In agriculture is was extensively used at one stage as a border surrounding other crops because of it's effectiveness in keeping other 'weeds' at bay from the main crops.

Some reconsideration by authorities is desirable in my opinion.
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Re: Marijuana - The Forbidden Medicine
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2010, 02:29:52 PM »
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Yeah Eps - the bastards who helped with banning natures medicine was Du Pont.
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Re: Marijuana - The Forbidden Medicine
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2010, 02:31:28 PM »
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Anybody ever see the US 1940's pro war propaganda proclaiming: "Hemp for victory"?
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Re: Marijuana - The Forbidden Medicine
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2010, 02:52:56 PM »
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I'm not sure if I have seen it bit I have heard of it. (Hemp for victory)

Regarding harmlessness of recreational use, absolutely - To date not one death attributed to cannabis as opposed to the (hundreds of, if we are talking about cigarettes) thousands every year directly due to nicotine and alcohol.

Regarding its addictive potential, to be sure it is addictive in the same way that anything enjoyable can be.

Epsilon, for an excellent review of the medical benefits, this book is a must.

It is good what is happening in California but like many American enterprises the part of me that is a cynical bastard sees the financial rather than the altruistic motivation shine through.

Bruce, the schizophrenia issue - If a person is predisposed to a mental condition then it stands to reason that a psychoactive substance can trigger an existing problem but the idea that cannabis CAUSES mental problems is hysterical propaganda in much the same way we were told that MDMA causes holes in the brain tissue of users.

Also, crap cannabis (I have been told) tastes crap, while good quality cannabis is (again, I've heard) quite scrumptious.

What you guys say about the petroleum industry and the potential for textiles and thousands of other uses for hemp, quite true and a very, very sad and unnecessary situation.

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Re: Marijuana - The Forbidden Medicine
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2010, 03:09:49 PM »
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Ziltoid - "Petroleum" you mean the old assumption that cannabis has a massive green energy potential?
Some call it nature's solar panels. Quick turnaround on crops means energy is synthesized very quickly to plant matter which can be used for whatever we desire. What's more is the amount of oxygen put back in to the air during the grow cycle of cannabis.
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Re: Marijuana - The Forbidden Medicine
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2010, 03:19:20 PM »
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I am under the impression that hemp (which is another issue entirely - No THC yet still illegal, a testament to the senseless hysteria humans are prone to) can be used in a huge variety of application.

Paper, for example - Let the trees grow and use, as you point out, very quick growing hemp to make paper. Also, compared to trees it is absurdly easy to harvest and process.

I mean, just look at the contents page of the Wikipedia entry for hemp:

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Uses

    * 1.1 Food
          o 1.1.1 Nutrition
          o 1.1.2 Storage
    * 1.2 Dietary supplement
    * 1.3 Medicine
    * 1.4 Fiber
          o 1.4.1 Building material
          o 1.4.2 Composite materials
          o 1.4.3 Paper
          o 1.4.4 Fabric
          o 1.4.5 Cordage
          o 1.4.6 Animal bedding
    * 1.5 Water and soil purification
    * 1.6 Weed control
    * 1.7 Fuel

Why are people so short sighted and greedy?

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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2010, 03:31:08 PM »
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It is scary that something that can give us the following is banned:

Food
Shelter
Energy
Medicine
clothes.

That sums about everything we need to survive sans water.
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Re: Marijuana - The Forbidden Medicine
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2010, 03:36:30 PM »
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We can thank racist, uninformed, profit driven, government sanctioned propaganda for that.

It's scary and sad, yet a model we, as a species, seem to gravitate towards.
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2010, 05:15:11 PM »
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We can thank racist, uninformed, profit driven, government sanctioned propaganda for that.

It's scary and sad, yet a model we, as a species, seem to gravitate towards.


Not a lot of people are aware of the politics and the numbers behind the illegality of Cannabis. It really is THE biggest conspiracy against mankind rivaling the roman catholic asssholz. The instant lifting of bans (and guys I'm talking about the agricultural/industrial uses of Cannabis) coupled with instant exploitation thereof in an ordered manner would change the face of the international economy forever. It would render loads of synthetic and polluting companies to shut down faster than the shake of a donkey's tail. It will suffocate the fossil energy industry and it will RUIN hundreds of the most richest men in the world to nothing.

Why?

Because energy, clothing and lots of other "new" and "better" stuff we have concocted the last 100 years will be taken back by earth. This meaning that people will opt for hemp as it will be sustainable, cheap and it will be available to everyone. The products thereof will create jobs again to process this stuff. And these will sell like hotcakes. I bet you every member on this board will convert to hemp jeans if I were to show you the quality and the comfort. No cotton can compare.

It will literally save mother earth.

Read this article of studies done by the University of Bath in UK:
http://www.greenbang.com/hemp-homes-offer-better-than-zero-carbon-footprint_8702.html
Basically what they are saying is that the actual fibres of hemp will contain the Co2 we have pumped in the air the last 100 years or so. It will have a "negative" carbon footprint which is what we need right now.

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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2010, 05:32:17 PM »
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That is an interesting building material.

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Re: Marijuana - The Forbidden Medicine
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2010, 08:46:34 PM »
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It will literally save mother earth.

Read this article of studies done by the University of Bath in UK:
http://www.greenbang.com/hemp-homes-offer-better-than-zero-carbon-footprint_8702.html
Basically what they are saying is that the actual fibres of hemp will contain the Co2 we have pumped in the air the last 100 years or so. It will have a "negative" carbon footprint which is what we need right now.


Very interesting link there bRUCE.
I was made aware by that article for the first time that hemp could be used as a construction material and the negative carbon footprint added to the very rapid growth of the plant makes it an highly attractive proposition.

It reminds me a little of some research I did a couple of years ago on the internet on straw-bale house construction on behalf of a friend.
It is a form of construction which dates back hundreds of years and may sound silly at first glance.
Primarily suited to drier climates where moisture penetration is not a huge issue there have been some very innovative designs and constructions done by individuals and university teams.
Basically the foundation and roof remain of a fairly conventional construct whereas the walls are then stacked using straw-bales and covered by a plaster mixture to seal out moisture. It also allows for some highly organic expression such as hand carved alcoves etc due to it's pliable nature.
Cost savings are an obvious benefit due to the material used and the speed with which it can be erected.
Insulation against both heat and cold is obviously second to none.

I think that the building industry and the legal head of local councils have for far too long looked at the ever so conventional methods of construction, when their are many alternatives available, some with great environmental benefits to boot.
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Re: Marijuana - The Forbidden Medicine
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2010, 09:09:49 PM »
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There is a house built like that in the city where I live, it is awesome - Looks like a hidey hole for a family of hobbits.
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