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Why my ADHD is a love hate relationship
« on: April 15, 2010, 06:10:27 PM »
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Part 1 : Why I hate it >:(

My first childhood memories, and definitely my most vivid ones is a story not really shared. Call it a shame if you will, a shame of not having the happy, bubbly little memories most people have from around 5 years up.

Encephalitis somehow got hold of me at age 5, so the first glimpses of my life to be written to my long term memory were those of me puking my lungs out and of evil ladies sticking needle upon needle in my tiny little back. These memories are filled with chills of “what if’s”.
 
When I recovered about 3 months before starting Gr 1 my physical well being returned to normal. I could talk, I could play and I could run around and react just like the other children, but I was never really the same again. Although I could not compare my thoughts post illness to prior the reality of the illness is with me daily. Something I would not have been was it not for contracting this cranial illness.

Upon entering school I was forced to sit down and work. I hated being told what to do, and hated it even more when the thing I was suppose to do had the tune of sitting down to it. People who are not aware of the reel feelings and reasons for acting the way we do and whom thinks that real ADHD is just another definition of lazy should step in to my boots one day. Nowadays would be rather uneventful, so I would actually have liked to go back in time and let the critic step in to the Awesome Doc Martins I had in St 8 or 9 or just about any grade I had to do “serious” work in.

A burning, a churning and wild racing of thoughts. Fires in my mind like a 10 year old heroin addict, raging and turning my stomach like an elastic being wrapped around something beyond it’s stretching potential when SNAP. I get up and I walk away from my homework to go pull some legs off of spiders.

A shooting of self motivated actions was the only fix for my junky ways of old. I would simply close the book and that would feel like pushing down the plunger and when I got to walking away each step took me further away from that churning feeling. That is the best word I have learnt so far to describe the butterfly like feeling. A churning of desire to get away from the mundane – of liberating my own wishes of experimentation and exploration of things most would not condone.

Somehow, luckily I passed each test. Not with flying colors, but with just enough B’s to keep my dad happy and just enough so I comparably did better than my sister. She use to study very hard. Exam times were extremely divided in the household – on the one hand my parents had their son who would just not learn on the other they had a daughter who loved to learn. She got support in a fashion I did not know.

After about 5 years of writing exams my parents lost interest in my educational well being. Though I dared not bring a failed test mark home the old man and I had what seems now to have been an unspoken arrangement. He considers me a “failure” and a “waste of potential” and leave me be to my own devices and I get to make sure he does not have an “official failure” of a son… and by this I mean, one who progresses from one st to the next without the shame of having a dumb son who has to be kept behind a year or two.

My teachers were dumb asses. I would always try to better them, and should I dare do the normal thing of acting in line instead of way out of line I would once again experience the churning – the irresistible lust to act out. To say my say and to cause controversy was the order of the day.

I kept on passing, and smooth talked my way out of my troubles by picking on peoples weaknesses and tender spots. This trait is still there, but noticed. Back then I did not notice any of the things I know about my past today. Environmental and societal repression did not latch – at all. But what I like to call “self repression” took hold and one cannot fathom the idea of a “brain disorder”.

I was lazy – and that was my curse. Why?  Because my father told me I was lazy. Lazy was in my eyes something I would die with – without ever really having a chance to choose not to be. It was something I considered my own misfortune and I based my life on this. I would sail and coast through the stuff I do not like as me and the “authority” had an agreement that suited me just fine.

Now I know that I suffered some form of brain modification. I cannot say damage neither can I say upgrade but what remains my take on it is that it was a modification – a change which would determine the outcome and the path of my life. So subtle in it’s symptoms yet so profound it sometimes felt like I could stop time itself – and for a 10 year old to consider the impossibility of trying to stop father time and what it could mean for the universe it never really struck me that something was “wrong” – comparing my consciousness with another was not really on any of my impulsive “to do lists” so the only real form of psychological repression I suffered was not noticing my “problem”.

My solution is in the progress but it’s difficult – and it takes a shitload of discipline. Something proving to be the hardest thing I have ever done - focusing on something I have no interest in – discipline.

I'd like to discuss hating adhd and I'd like to hear from others who has the same comparable symptoms like the churning and the fire burning when forced to do stuff.

Why I love it will come later when I have mustered enough courage and a strategy not to sound like a complete narcissist online.
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Re: Why my ADHD is a love hate relationship
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2010, 07:29:28 PM »
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Thanks for that really insightful self-analysis Bruce.
It has given me an understanding of adhd that I think could have filled volumes condensed into a very succinct piece.
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Re: Why my ADHD is a love hate relationship
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2010, 07:52:32 PM »
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No probs eps. I hope to fill this thread with loads of info on true ADD.
I'm afraid the PD/teacher diagnosed add'ers have stolen the legitimacy and the seriousness of having a true authoritative and attention problem.

And then the pharmaceutical companies came and built their kingdoms on selling crap that gets you high to keep you happy - and a trusty little work horse. :-X
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Re: Why my ADHD is a love hate relationship
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2010, 09:03:23 PM »
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Interesting indeed.

I had Meningitis as a newborn baby and was teetering on the brink.

Some of what you describe sounds eerily similar to what I have experienced myself.

When I am tasked with something, I can't zone in and settle down - My mind feels like it's whizzing by at a thousand miles an hour and time cannot keep up. It's drives me fucking nuts. My academic career has been spotty at best because of my 'laziness'.

Retaining information is difficult because by the time I've read, listened or watched something worth taking in, my mind has already jumped ahead to the next thing. Onward and upward into nothing while neglecting everything around me.

It's highly irksome if I am honest.

 
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Re: Why my ADHD is a love hate relationship
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2010, 09:19:38 PM »
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And caters for an environment where procrastination rules the roost?
Your every desire blended by the blunt blades of the rut you are in?
It's a dark place indeed some days.
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Re: Why my ADHD is a love hate relationship
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2010, 09:24:46 PM »
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At the moment, every day is dark. I need some way to clamber out of this.

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Aye, to your two questions.
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Re: Why my ADHD is a love hate relationship
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2010, 09:29:51 PM »
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How strong is your death fear Ziltoid?
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Re: Why my ADHD is a love hate relationship
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2010, 09:33:01 PM »
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Irrationally.
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Re: Why my ADHD is a love hate relationship
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2010, 09:40:45 PM »
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That should be drive enough to make the most out of life. Should it not?
Leonardo da Vinci once said "A well-spent day brings happy sleep." He Also said "So too shall a life well spent bring happy death".

Trust me - he had a point when he said that. He always had a very good point.

There use to be a time where the thought of not being any more drove me up the fucking wall man. I mean literally freaking out - not out of "fear" of death,
but rather of the thought of not being any more. Dying was not the problem - it was figuring out how can my consciousness be reduced to nothing. And
the fear in the knowledge that time will never end. It will never end with no trace of your existence.
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Re: Why my ADHD is a love hate relationship
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2010, 09:48:35 PM »
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No disagreement from me there.

I just happen to be in the rather low point of a cycle of depression, it's sometimes a tough thing to escape and I resist all the poison pills.

Me not being doesn't bother me too much, it's the other people in my life not being, that stresses me out.

It's all good though, it's not as though this is unexplored territory for me. As you mentioned earlier, it takes discipline. Knowing what to do is easy, finding the fortitude to do it is the important thing.

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Re: Why my ADHD is a love hate relationship
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2010, 09:17:05 AM »
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Hey Bruce

Thanks for sharing that most insightful self-reflection, I actually find benefit through it.

I am also in a downward spiral this week, as I am sure you noticed my post quality took a dip.

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Retaining information is difficult because by the time I've read, listened or watched something worth taking in, my mind has already jumped ahead to the next thing. Onward and upward into nothing while neglecting everything around me.

I fully can relate, my wife, until recently couldn't handle that about me, but now that we've recognized I have the condition, she is more sympathetic and has chilled quite a bit about it. The worst part is I was only diagnosed 18 months ago, nobody in my family gave a shit and we eventually went and got help when my marriage was busy breaking down, and since then life has been somewhat difficult, but the best damn years of my life, for a change.

My son and his need to be fed every 3-4 hours is also difficult to handle at times but I am trying to cope.

In my case nobody knows how/why I ended up with it, but the good thing is at least it is somewhat under control, using 2x Neurovance in the mornings. I cannot do much about the depression side of things so I deal with it by doing/engaging in happy stuff, and that is why the music thing is critical to me.
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Re: Why my ADHD is a love hate relationship
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2010, 09:28:47 AM »
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It's a bitch to say the least Jason. But on the other hand - it's a real sexy vixen like bitch you should really try to get to know.
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Re: Why my ADHD is a love hate relationship
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2010, 10:14:41 AM »
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A burning, a churning and wild racing of thoughts. Fires in my mind like a 10 year old heroin addict, raging and turning my stomach like an elastic being wrapped around something beyond it’s stretching potential when SNAP.

I have never been diagnosed with ADHD.
I am reading this and it is like I am reading about me.
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Re: Why my ADHD is a love hate relationship
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2010, 12:20:24 PM »
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A burning, a churning and wild racing of thoughts. Fires in my mind like a 10 year old heroin addict, raging and turning my stomach like an elastic being wrapped around something beyond it’s stretching potential when SNAP.

I have never been diagnosed with ADHD.
I am reading this and it is like I am reading about me.

I started looking for answers only at age 25. As one becomes more mature you are more likely to notice differences between yourself (if you have true adhd(add)) and other people.

Like why filling in your tax returns feels like getting kicked in the face with a golf shoe.
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Re: Why my ADHD is a love hate relationship
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2010, 12:31:26 PM »
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Like why filling in your tax returns feels like getting kicked in the face with a golf shoe.
That is a really good description, I feel that way about all kinds of paperwork...
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